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Menards Santa Fe diesel A-A set beta 4.0 test

By Hal Miller | November 3, 2022

O gauge units show a lot of improvement since the original models

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Menards Santa Fe diesel program launched a little more than a year ago with its first beta test. The company has released several more iterations of its F units, which it markets as “Santa Fe Diesel Locomotive,” soliciting customer feedback. The latest iteration, beta 4.0, is an A-A set in Santa Fe’s “bluebonnet” paint scheme from the early 1970s.

Menards Santa Fe diesel A-A set in blue and yellow paint scheme
Menards beta 4.0 Santa Fe diesel A-A set in the railroad’s “bluebonnet” paint scheme.

The pair consists of one powered and one unpowered unit. Both feature figures in the cab, operating headlights, lighted numberboards, diesel sounds, horn, bell, and crew talk.

The last three items are activated by the handheld radio-frequency remote that is included to control the engines. Not included are three AAA batteries for the remote.

A disclaimer: This is not a review. We are treating this model as a test shot with the assumption Menards is soliciting feedback to improve it for a future production run.

Menards Santa Fe diesel A-A set

You can get the information on how the units are operated from the original release. As the company wants feedback I found the email I sent to Menards about the first version. I’ll go through it point by point to give an update on what’s been changed.

  1. Abrupt starting and stopping: The first release was either on or off, like instantly. I’m pleased to say the beta 4.0 models start and stop slowly and smoothly. It’s all done with electronics and not flywheels, but the effect is pleasing nonetheless.
  2. Scratches on the roof from the packaging: No scratches on the latest release. Units arrived in great shape and well packaged in plastic bags inside a molded clamshell surrounded by foam in a cardboard box.
  3. Battery tabs in good contact position in the remote: The batteries slipped right into the newest remote and it worked perfectly.
  4. Horn sound too short; it should stay on as long as the button is pushed: Horn now sounds as long as the button is pushed.
  5. I’d rather see the frame and trucks the same silver as the body rather than chrome: This was a personal thing and I added, “as it’s a toy train, chrome is OK.” Trucks and fuel tank in the beta 4.0 release are still chrome, and it’s still OK. But I noticed the frames and pilot are held on with screws, so there might be a project in store…

Running beta 4.0

Menards Santa Fe diesel A-A nose and top view
There are figures in the cabs of both the powered and unpowered units.

After running the beta 4.0 locomotives, I had just a few nits left to pick. From what I discovered on the internet, one of them afflicted at least some of the unpowered units of this test run. Upon power-up, I heard a “pop” then saw smoke coming from under its shell. It sounded like a capacitor giving up the ghost.

I took off the shell and sure enough, the electrolytic capacitor for the lights had let go. Expecting to find it miswired (as I have done myself in the past to similar effect), it was not. The negative lead was indeed connected to ground and the positive to track power. It’s possible the run of capacitors was mis-marked; that’s not unheard of in the electronics world.

At any rate, the bad capacitor wasn’t fatal. I determined it’s only there to keep the lights on in case of dirty or poorly conducting track. I was still able to run the unpowered unit with lights.

I have not tried to replace to capacitor but if I do I’ll update this article. It’s an easy fix if you have the part and can solder. I’d recommend replacing it with a polarized electrolytic of the same value; it’s function is to basically act as a battery or reservoir for power. A non-electrolytic capacitor will not do that.

The only other issue I had with the unpowered unit was the inner axles produced an audible intermittent squeaking. A plastic-compatible lubricant would likely help.

A couple more things

Menards Santa Fe diesel unpowered frame and interior
Judging from the talk on the internet ours wasn’t the only one to have an issue with the capacitor in the unpowered unit. Ours popped and smoke came out but the lights still worked.

The other things I passed along to Menards were:

  • No labeling on the switch underneath the unpowered unit. It turns the head- and numberboard lights on and off. It’s labeled on the powered unit and turns off the sound.
  • The color of yellow varies from the nose (which looks correct) to the “warbonnet” stripe, that looks more neon-ish. From experience I know it’s not easy painting a light color over a dark one.

The dual-motor powered unit functioned flawlessly and pulled a 7-car train with no issues. As mentioned earlier, it stopped and started smoothly and I suspect could have handled several more cars as it’s equipped with traction tires.

Another little improvement was the painting of the figures. They were much more neatly done than in the first version.

The price for the set was $224.71. Menards also recently released as a beta test an unpowered A unit in the standard Santa Fe red warbonnet scheme.

Menards has come a long way with its locomotives, and kudos to them for listening to customers to make improvements. Me, and a lot of other people hope to see these in regular production real soon.

One thought on “Menards Santa Fe diesel A-A set beta 4.0 test

  1. Nice article. Too bad you don’t tell the whole story. The capacitor in my unit burned out with a loud pop as soon as I put it on the track. I contacted Menard’s (you can only do it by email) and after a week I received a reply with 3 options
    1. If the lights in the cab are on leave it alone and run it the way it is.
    2. Take the pick up rollers off the engine, return them to Menard’s and Menard’s will give me a freight car for my trouble. (I’m sure postage will be my responsibility).
    3. Sell the locos on ebay and make a $100 – $200 profit.
    The only thing that Menard’s won’t do is fix a defective product that they sold, NO CORPORATE RESPONSIBILITY, BUYER BEWARE. Yet you see fit to write a glowing review. If you are going to write a review tell the whole story not a one sided piece to keep a major advertiser happy..

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