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Amtrak nixes New York’s Toys for Tots Train NEWSWIRE

By Angela Cotey | August 6, 2018

| Last updated on November 3, 2020

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ALBANY, N.Y. — Amtrak will not operate the annual Toys for Tots Train in upstate New York this year, area media outlets have reported.

The passenger railroad cited its policy toward chartered trains, announced in March. [See “Amtrak to stop operating special trains, charter moves,” Trains News Wire, March 28, 2018].

The train, supporting U.S. Marine Corps charity efforts, has operated for 19 years, carrying everything from toys to warm blankets and clothing for those in need. It has served more than 150,000 children, according to its organizers.

“Consistent with Amtrak’s mandate to provide efficient, safe and effective intercity passenger rail transportation, Amtrak has established a new policy for the operation of charter trains,” the company said in a statement issued Friday. “Amtrak’s objective is to operate its core, scheduled train service safely, on time and efficiently, and must therefore decline to operate this charter. Amtrak will continue to proudly support the Toys for Tots program through the collection of toys at participating stations.”

Marine Gunnery Sgt. Albert Roman, Jr., the Toys for Tots coordinator for the Capital Region, told the Albany Times-Union on Friday that he was “shocked” to receive an email from Amtrak with the bad news. His organization has already collected tractor-trailers full of donations and is not sure how it will deliver them now. Donations in the past have come from Marines, police, firefighters, FBI agents, Amtrak employees and others.

“It’s going to hurt us in many ways — logistically, financially. That train was where we tell our story. It’s about the kids, the delivery, the community coming together … [Amtrak] just left us on the sidelines,” Roman, Jr. said. While he said the decision has to potential to “cripple” the Toys for Tots effort, he said the organization will find a solution: “We’re not going to let our community down.”

The national passenger carrier announced its intention not to operate last year’s iteration of the holiday special, but it was saved by last minute intervention from U.S. Reps. Paul Tonko (D-N.Y.) and Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.). In recent years, the train has operated between Albany, Oneonta and Binghamton over the former Delaware & Hudson Railroad, now part of Canadian Pacific, as well as from Albany north to Plattsburgh and Rouses Point over the ex-D&H route used by Amtrak’s daily New York-Montreal Adirondack.

Albany’s WNYT-TV first reported that Amtrak would not run the train this year.

25 thoughts on “Amtrak nixes New York’s Toys for Tots Train NEWSWIRE

  1. Been a lot of news lately how intermodal is losing freight to the truckers once again; I guess here is another opportunity for a trucking co.to step in and help out the Marines!

  2. Propeller head needs to step back and evaluate stuff, like his crazy statements about people not wanting to eat with strangers on trains and roaming around in aisles is not good. That is the reason people take trains, to meet others and stretch legs. I just returned from trip on City of NOLA and no one has a good thing to say about him. Maybe the stockholders like him, but the general public does not. He is like Scrooge for sure with this idea.

  3. Years ago the GWWR had a Christmas Train – handing out candy, etc, at train stations along the way. Crews and other people donated their time for this trip (East St. Louis to Blue Springs MO as the 12-hr law would generally catch them there.) After the KCS bought the GWWR, this train was expanded covering segments of all lines each year. The KCS Executive Train is used with NO connection with AMTK. I’ve visited this train on many occasions and participated as an ‘elf’ handing large goodie bags to all who were 10 and under as they toured the displays and talked with Santa and Mrs. Clause within the train. I’ll need to watch the internet as I expect the train to operate again this year..

  4. I don’t know what say. In the past I would praise and tell people about my trips on Amtrak and how great it was. Now I just look at what’s going on and shake my head. I live between 2 Empire Builder stations in Minnesota.

  5. Joe Kurland: Thanks for the kudos. Wouldn’t any of us like a shot at undoing this mess.

    I spent 35 years full-time running a tour company that specialized in rail trips worldwide–of course including Amtrak. I remind myself daily how glad I am now to be retired rather than to have to face Amtrak’s insane new policies for groups, private cars and charters. And that doesn’t begin to cover what Anderson has done to food service, the LAKESHORE, CAPITOL LIMITED, SW CHIEF and soon the TEXAS EAGLE.

    See http://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2018/08/01-amtrak-changes-booking-policies-for-tour-operators for my earlier notes on the new group rules.

    May we dream that he has burned through most of his capital with the Congress?

  6. Carl Fowler, I nominate you for Amtrak CEO. You have an understanding of the business and you love trains. Anderson has neither.

  7. Management rational: The airlines don’t fly special routes stopping as small airports and delivering gifts so why should Amtrak?

  8. Well, since I like to spread joy everywhere I go, on a lighter and fun note how’s about a head-end ride on a Susquehanna “Toys For Tots” train from a few years ago? Yeah, ol’ “Suzie-Q” knows how to get it done!

    There’s a rock music background, so you MAY want to turn the volume down a bit.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHIJBAP9l_I

    Enjoy the ride! Maybe someone from Amtrak will see this and reconsider. Or maybe not.

  9. It is time to disolve Amtrk and hire Austraila’s Great Southern Rail to operate long distance trains in the USA. GSR’s fine trains, The Indian Pacific, The Ghan, The Overland, each provide deluxe passenger rail service Down Under. Check out their website http://www.greatsouthernrail.com/au to begin the online journey of your life.
    WOW!

  10. T’were the months before Christmas at Amtrak

    T’were the months before Christmas
    At Amtrak HQ
    The execs were all gathered
    Pondering who to next to screw.

    They gloated and smiled
    Pondering their past success
    Customer satisfaction was eroding
    Devolving into a mess.

    Though their focus was “on track”
    They smirked with a pun
    Their job was not finished
    Until all trains were gone.

    The Pacific Parlour Cars
    Were a passenger’s delight
    So they were summarily mothballed
    And whisked far from sight.

    “Contemporary Dining”
    Is a term spin doctors quite relish
    But as an eating experience
    It’s become chaotically hellish.

    Destaffing key stations
    Will drive patrons away
    And force grandma to stay home
    Because she can’t check her bags.

    Private cars and group travel?
    Were a great revenue source
    So we made it much harder
    For them to use Amtrak, of course.

    But we can’t rest on our laurels
    And our job’s not yet done
    Until each Amtrak long distance train
    Makes its last run.

    And try though we might
    We just can’t understand why
    Americans so enthusiastically like trains
    When they could just walk, drive, or fly.

    As the opportunity approached us
    In far upper New York State
    Arose a chance to tarnish our image
    And show trains aren’t that great.

    The joy of giving, trains, and Christmas
    Used to go hand-in-hand
    But not at the “new” Amtrak
    Such frivolity is now banned.

    “How can you be so callous?”
    Shout those who are miffed.
    Being immune to embarrassment
    Is a wonderful gift.

    So Grinch, we salute you
    And though you did not succeed
    Your inspiration here flourishes
    Driving our indifference and greed.

    –Merry Christmas from Amtrak

  11. “Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I’d like Anderson, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, ****less, hopeless, heartless, fat-***, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey **** he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit. Where’s the Tylenol? ” – Clark Griswold

  12. Now everybody sing a long; You’re a mean one, Mr Grinch
    You really are a heel
    You’re as cuddly as a cactus
    You’re as charming as an eel
    Mr. Grinch!
    You’re a bad banana
    With a greasy black peel!

    You’re a monster, Mr. Grinch!
    Your heart’s an empty hole
    Your brain is full of spiders
    You’ve got garlic in your soul
    Mr. Grinch!
    I wouldn’t touch you
    With a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole!

    You’re a vile one, Mr. Grinch!
    You have termites in your smile
    You have all the tender sweetness
    Of a seasick crocodile
    Mr. Grinch!
    Given the choice between the two of you
    I’d take the seasick crocodile!

    You’re a foul one, Mr. Grinch!
    You’re a nasty, wasty skunk!
    Your heart is full of unwashed socks
    Your soul is full of gunk
    Mr. Grinch!
    The three words that best describe you
    Are as follows, and I quote
    “Stink, stank, stunk!”

    You’re a rotter, Mr. Grinch!
    You’re the king of sinful sots!
    Your heart’s a dead tomato
    Splotched with moldy, purple spots
    Mr. Grinch!
    Your soul is an apalling dump-heap
    Overflowing with the most disgraceful
    Assortment of deplorable rubbish imaginable
    Mangled-up in tangled-up knots!

    You nauseate me, Mr. Grinch!
    With a nauseous super naus!
    You’re a crooked jerky jockey
    And you drive a crooked hoss
    Mr. Grinch!
    You’re a three-decker sauerkraut
    And toadstool sandwich
    With arsenic sauce!

  13. Anderson is one heartless S.O.B. “Good business practice” is one thing, but this is practically like taking candy from a baby. Amtrak is supposed to be a National Railroad, not Mr. Anderson’s private property.

  14. Robert McGuire

    It might surprise you to know that most train crews do volunteer their services when working a job like this as they find it more rewarding to help those in need by helping to deliver toys to children that wouldn’t otherwise receive them. As for your other arguments, it’s a semi-governmental agency/semi-private agency(like the Postal Service), as such it’s part of the carriers mandate to serve the American public, this happens to fall under that portion of the mandate.

  15. Mr. Anderson is doing what he was brought in to do. Just like many Amtrak Presidents before him he is trying to shut it down.

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